That said, it would also be naive to think that everything is always enjoyable. Sometimes, things can be a slog, or just plain boring - we all know that. But even if we could avoid these things at school (which we cannot) we would be doing our students a grave disservice if they left without ever meeting and overcoming challenges which were not in themselves enjoyable. That is, sometimes intrinsic motivation is impossible. As I have been thinking about what motivates students, and how we can pursue notions of student autonomy, I've realised that the familiar everyday linear axis of extrinsic <-----------> intrinsic motivation is over simplified.
We can use Kasser's example of taking the trash out to understand these. For our kids it's not likely to be a great task intrinsically; but it can fall under identified motivation if they genuinely value a clean house; if the only reason we do it is because we nag them then it's probably introjected motivation; and if they do it for fear of a punishment then it's clearly extrinsically motivated.
The need to be able to focus on the mundane things in life when necessary, but also to place them in a broader context, and so to see how they contribute to our purposes and missions is not a new one. A lot therefore, depends on our perspective, and we probably all know from our own experiences that while it can sometimes appear that nothing has changed on the outside, everything has changed on the inside. It's true for students, and true for teachers. The same idea is more beautifully expressed in Wu Li's Zen Kōan:
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Psychologist Tim Kasser make this come alive with a simply everyday example: The demands of life are such that all of us.... have fewer experience of flow than we might like. For many of us our routine consists less frequently of climbing mountains and having moments of deep interest at work than of taking out the garbage and engaging in rote tasks. But even though these latter tasks only rarely provide intrinsic motivation, we can still feel more or less autonomous and authentic or controlled and alienated while we are doing them. Put differently, we can take out the trash because we really value a clean hygienic house, or because we feel pressured by our spouse or conscience.
This really resonated with me. I know I can attack dull tasks with enthusiasm and energy when I can place them as part of a bigger picture, and see their purpose. That is, I can still be motivated to do these tasks autonomously, if I understand how they fit, in the long term with my interests and values.
It turns out that there are indeed further ways of thinking about this than the familiar intrinsic / extrinsic distinction. In their seminal work in this area, Ryan and Deci identify two intermediary forms of motivation, identified and introjected motivation which I think are really helpful categories for us teachers and parents, as we seek to support students and children to do certain things.
The familiar intrinsic / extrinsic scale has some intermediate points (Deci and Ryan 2017) |
We can use Kasser's example of taking the trash out to understand these. For our kids it's not likely to be a great task intrinsically; but it can fall under identified motivation if they genuinely value a clean house; if the only reason we do it is because we nag them then it's probably introjected motivation; and if they do it for fear of a punishment then it's clearly extrinsically motivated.
Why does any of this matter? Do these subtleties make a difference? I think they do. These categories allow us to think about how to get students through the dull bits, and stick with things when they are tough. We can go toward the extrinsic/introjected end and either demand, threaten, nag or guilt -trip students into compliance; these strategies may get the immediate outcomes we want (eg complete the homework) but they are likely to foster a low sense of autonomy, and push students to feel controlled rather than in control. Importantly, adopting these strategies likely means that students won't replicate the desirable behaviors without further pressure. By contrast even if we cannot make tasks intrinsically motivating, we can seek identified motivation if we can show how even a relatively undesirable task aligns with things that they value - in the case of doing homework, this might be laying the foundation for successful lessons the next day or developing competence and expertise. While these are a little remote and perhaps take more work than a simple order, if we can get through to students then it means they are more likely to internalize the thinking - and hence for the behaviours to continue in the longer term.
The effects of staying at the intrinsic/identified end of the scale are significant. Ryan and Deci note that as we shift from early childhood toward teenage years how well these extrinsic regulations are internalised predicts both quality of functioning and wellness.
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Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
References
- Csikszentmihalyi, M. (1991) Flow. Harper Perennial Modern Classics
- Ryan, R. and Deci, E. (2017). Self-Determination Theory Guilford Press
- Nickerson, C., Schwarz, N., Diener, E., & Kahneman, D. (2003). Zeroing in on the dark side of the American Dream: A closer look at the negative consequences of the goal for financial success. Psychological Science, 14, 531-536.
- Kasser, T (2003) The High Price of Materialism
Hi Nick,
ReplyDeleteThis TED talk might also resonate with you, and like your post- is a great reminder that we might want to rethink the value of being bored and consider the hidden value it has in life https://www.ted.com/talks/manoush_zomorodi_how_boredom_can_lead_to_your_most_brilliant_ideas?language=en
Thanks!
Tricia
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DeleteThanks T - just watched that and enjoyed it. Lots of wisdom there, but I think it was far less about boredom than about being distracted; and I think the two are very different.
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N
“The need to be able to focus on the mundane things in life when necessary, but also to place them in a broader context, and so to see how they contribute to our purposes and missions "in"(is)not a new one.” Sir,there is a small typo in that line.
ReplyDeletefixed - thank you!
ReplyDeleteNice post.Thanks for sharing article. I am truly instigated by you for blogging.
ReplyDeleteI can strongly recommend this talk (or any other talk of Robinson) to anyone who is interested in education or likes innovative attitude and brainstorming, since his thought-provoking arguments easily arouse anybody’s interest even if he or she is a laic in this topic.
So,I like your blog and thanks again.
Thanks for the comment - what talk do you mean?
ReplyDeleteBest wishes
Nick